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When we should shame people — and when we shouldn’t

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Shame can be a tool for justice and morality – and it can also be weaponized. Cathy O’Neil launched the Lede Program for data journalism at Columbia University. She joins host Krys Boyd to discuss the relationship between shame and power and when cancel culture is beneficial and when it goes too far. Her book is “The Shame Machine: Who Profits in the New Age of Humiliation.”